22/01/2025

14 thoughts on “Make Noise MATHS for Beginners

  1. This has been very helpful, but I do have some questions. I’ve read in several places and seen in videos that without anything plugged into Channels 2 or 3, they out put +-10 and -+5. respectively. Fine. What happens when you plug something into Channel 2? What is the output then? If the input is +-5 volts, does Channel 2 then output +-5 volts? Being a complete Noob at this, I’m somewhat confused.
    Secondly, the sum output. As I understand from the second video, if all four channels are set to 0, then the summed output is 0(?). So, if all four channels are turned to the maximum clockwise position, does that mean the output is 35 volts!? Or am I missing something. Again, I’m ignorant of this stuff and really trying to learn

    1. If you plug in, say, a DC offset of 1 volt into channel 2, at full clockwise the output would be 6 volts (1 + 5). At full counter clockwise it’d be -4v.

      The sum output would sum all channels yes, yeah your addition is technically correct but only 2 and 3 are offsets, 1 and 4 make functions, so they might rise to +35v in total (if 1 and 4 were synchronized). For me the sum is more useful for complex shapes, for example 4 LFOs all at different speeds.

      1. Eurorack runs on a +/- 12v power supply. It’s not possible to have voltages higher than 12v or lower than -12v (without fancy internal stuff like buck converters etc.).
        There’s no way a maths will process or output +35v. Instead it will saturate/clip/distort (not necessarily a bad thing).
        I’m amazed you’re a teacher, and you’re spouting misinformation based on ignorance and guesswork! Have the confidence to admit when you don’t know!

        1. Wow Colin thanks for your kind words! I’ve obviously missed the point on something I misheard Tony say on his YouTube channel about the SUM output. Doh! Reading my answer back, yes of course it can’t produce voltages beyond the capabilities of the hardware and would clip, without my modular next to my I couldn’t test the real world application of that so tried to best answer the question!

          > I’m amazed you’re a teacher, and you’re spouting misinformation based on ignorance and guesswork! Have the confidence to admit when you don’t know

          While I teach for a living I don’t teach modular synthesis anymore, so thankfully nobody died from my ill-informed response. Hope you have a nice day filled with a little less sanctimony!

          1. I appreciate your technical and educational skills, and your response to CB indicates some impressive diplomacy as well 🙂

  2. Please forgive an electronic newbie, but in the section on attenuverters, you make reference to “a bi-polar DC offset” – wouldn’t that be by definition an alternating current, i.e. switching back and forth alternately between positive & negative values. Direct current as an offset such as that produced by Maths channels 3 & 4 is easy to understand, because it’s flat. Self-cycling with channel 1 or 4 also can also generate a unipolar waveform, but if I use the sum output to subtract a DC offset, I create a waveform which crosses the zero axis and now is bi-polar – isn’t this now an alternating current?

  3. My Maths is arriving tomorrow, very excited!

    The thing that most amazes me is that it’s made by an American company, yet is called “Maths” and not “Math”. 😉

  4. Thanks for putting this all together into one article – has helped get my head around it all

  5. Yeah thanks for putting this together, I’ve owned one for a year now and barely touch it cause I don’t know whats going on. Time to get back to it, thanks!

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